Peter Elder of Virginia

Elder Notes ─ Generation 6 ─ Children of James and Mary Elder

The following record lists children of James5 and Polly Elder:

"A 1911 LDS Manti Temple Record gives the names of eleven (11) individuals who are listed as the father, aunts and uncles of Clayborn Montgomery Elder of Leamington. The siblings are David (Clayborn's father), James, Joshua, William, Claiborn, Elizabeth, Sarah, Nancy, Lucy, Frances and Susan. The only other information given about them is that they were from Tennessee. Unfortunately, the parents of these siblings are listed as only 'Grandfather' and 'Grandmother' Elder." [Film #170399, Manti Temple Baptism Records, 5003 Book T, pp. 20, 30, September 5, 7, & 12, 1911] Quoted from In Search of Grandfather and Grandmother Elder, Kareen Chamberlain, 2002.

James Elder and Mary Mason married in 1789, and, based on reported ages, their first identified child was born no earlier than 1794: they may have had other earlier children who haven't been identified because they had died or left home by the 1810 Census [1810 Census of United States, Charlotte County, Virginia, Microfilm series M252, Roll 68, page 1013].

Age
Range
Free
White
Males
Free
White
Females
Under 10 2 3
10 – 15 2 3
16 – 25 0 0
26 – 44 1 1
45 & over 0 0

Note that five children were reported as being born in six years (2 boys and 3 girls aged 10 and 15). Perhaps there were twins. Note also that 3 of the girls were born by 1800 and the other 3 by 1810.

The notes for James and Polly Mason Elder are here.

References are given at the bottom of this page.


James Elder Jr.

James Elder was born about 1794 and died about 1853. He appeared in Censuses from 1820 to 1850 [records].

Birth

James Elder was born about 1794 (age 56 in 1850 Census). His parents James and Polly Elder lived in Campbell County or Charlotte County, Virginia, at the time.

Marriage

James Elder married twice in Rutherford County, Tennessee [Ref 1]:

(1) 15 Jul 1816 to Peggy Wood, solemnized by John Hoover, J.P.

(2) 26 Mar 1829 to Jane Watson, solemnized by John Lane, surety David Myers

Wives

Margaret Wood Elder died before 26 Mar 1829 (when James married again). Jane Watson Elder died between 1834 (when son William was born) and the 1840 Census. I haven't learned anything about their parents.

Children

James and Margaret Elder had the following children:

James and Jane Elder had the following children:

Residences

James Elder resided in Campbell and Charlotte Counties in Virginia and Rutherford and Obion Counties in Tennessee.

Death

James Elder died in 1853 in Obion County, Tennessee [Kareen Chamberlain].

Other points of interest

  1. James Elder, William Haislip and others were summoned for jury duty in Obion County at January Term 1834 of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions [link]
     
  2. James Elder was elected Constable for two years in Civil District 2 and gave bond (with others) for $4000 to Governor 6 Apr 1840 [Willis, Obion County, Tennessee, Will Book 3, 1/20/1840 - 3/7/1842, page 5 (at DAR)]

    James Elder was elected Constable for two years in Civil District 2 and gave bond (with others) for $4000 to Governor 7 Mar 1842 [Will Book 4, 3/1842 - 8/1843, page 4 (at DAR)]

    James Elder was elected Constable for two years in Civil District 2 and gave bond (with others) for $4000 to Governor 1 Apr 1844 [Will Book 5, 8/1843 - 11/1844, page 43 (at DAR)]

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Joshua Elder

Notes for Joshua and Lydia Etter Elder are here.

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Elizabeth Elder

Elizabeth Elder was born in 1799 and died in 1874. She appears with her husband and family in the 1850 to 1870 Censuses (these records are difficult to find because of spelling variations). [records]

Birth

Elizabeth Elder was born Jan 1799 [son William Pitts' Bible record from Kareen Chamberlain], probably in Charlotte County, Virginia, whose tax lists her father James Elder appeared on during this period.

Marriage

Betsy Elder and Kinchen Pitts married on or after 21 Jan 1824 (date of marriage bond) in Rutherford County, Tennessee; Matthew Pitts surety [Ref 1].

Husband

Kinchen Pitts was born 25 Dec 1800 and died 17 Nov 1874 [William Pitts' Bible]. Census records say he was born in North Carolina. I haven't learned anything about his family.

Children

Kinchen and Elizabeth Pitts had the following nine children:

Residences

Elizabeth Elder lived in Charlotte and Campbell Counties in Virginia, Rutherford County, Tennessee, and St. Clair and Washington Counties in Illinois.

Death

Elizabeth Elder Pitts died 12 Mar 1874 in Nashville, Washington County, Illinois [William Pitts Bible].

Other points of interest

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Sarah Elder

Sarah Elder was born by 1810 in Virginia. Nothing is known about her life.

A Sally Elder, age 49, born Tennessee, lived with Wm. L. Murfree in the 1850 Census of Rutherford County, Tennessee [Microfilm series M432, Roll 894, Page 357B] [record]. (Sally was a common nickname for Sarah.)

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David Elder

David Elder was born about 1803 in Virginia and died in 1830 in Tennessee or Illinois. He may appear in the 1830 Census [record].

Information given for David Elder is taken from Kareen Chamberlain (a descendent, Ref 6) unless otherwise noted. I've listed any documents that I've found.

Birth

David Elder does not appear by name in the 1820 Census, but by process of elimination he was 16 to 18 in 1820 [Microfilm series M33, Roll 124, Page 192]. Thus his birth was about 1803.

Marriage

David Elder and Martha Louisa Montgomery married 7 Nov 1825 in Rutherford County, Tennessee.

Wife

Martha Elder married (2) Alfred Bell 8 Sep 1832 in Shelby County, Illinois [Ref 4]. Martha Montgomery was born 7 Apr 1807, died 20 May 1888 and was buried in Lehi City Cemetery, Utah County, Utah [findagrave.com]. She last appeared in the 1880 Census, age 73, born in North Carolina [Microfilm series T9, Roll 1335, Page 143D]. Notes at findagrave.com say that her parents were James and Rebecca Clark Montgomery: James Montgomery and Rebekah Clark married 8 Jan 1800 in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina [North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868, Ancestry.com].

Children

David and Martha Elder had three children (all probably born in Rutherford County):

Residences

David Elder lived in Campbell and Charlotte Counties in Virginia, in Rutherford County, Tennessee, and possibly in St. Clair County, Illinois.

Death

David Elder is said to have died 26 May 1830 in St. Clair County, Illinois.

Other points of interest

His father James had an older brother David Elder (who moved to Georgia).

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William Elder

William Elder was born about 1806 and died about 1891. He appeared in Censuses from 1830 to 1880 [records], and is listed as William N. Elder in 1870 and 1880.

Birth

William Elder was born about 1806 (age 44 in 1850 Census) in Charlotte or Campbell County, Virginia.

Marriage

William Elder and Tabitha Nance married 18 Dec 1828 in Rutherford County, Tennessee [Ref 1]. The marriage was solemnized by John Lane, as was the marriage of James Elder and Jane Watson in 1829.

Wife

Tabitha Nance Elder was born in Tennessee between 1801 and 1810 (age 20-29 in 1830 Census; age 30-39 in 1840 Census). She died between 1843, when daughter Tabitha was born, and the 1850 Census.

There were five Nances listed in the 1810 Census of Rutherford County, Tennessee: Allen, Bird, Daniel, Isaac and William [Microfilm series M33, Roll 124, pages 1, 14, 40, 177]. Isham Nance appears in the 1820 Census of Rutherford County [Microfilm series M33, Roll 124, Page 159]. The will of Reuben Nance, proved 9 Mar 1812 in Henry County, Virginia, names children William, Bird, Allen, Isaac, Isham, Tabitha Shackelford, and others [Lela C. Adams, Henry County Virginia Will Abstracts, Southern Historical Press, 1985]. Several members of the family evidently moved to Rutherford County area from Virginia.

Two Tabitha Nances married in Rutherford County in the 1820s: one married Willie Harmon 26 Dec 1826; the other married William Elder 18 Dec 1828.

All five of the Nances in the 1810 Census had daughters in Tabitha's age-range, as did Isham Nance in the 1820 Census. But it's possible to narrow down the possible parents of Tabitha:

Children

William and Tabitha Elder had the following eight children:

Residences

William Elder lived in Charlotte and Campbell Counties in Virginia and in Rutherford, Carroll and Weakley Counties in Tennessee.

Death

William Elder is said by undocumented Internet sources to have died in 1891. There is a listing for Elder, Billie, age 85, in Blooming Grove Methodist Church Cemetery in Weakley County [Ref 9, page 13].

Other points of interest

  1. Wm Lafayette Elder, son of W. M. Elder (sic) and Tabitha Nants (sic), who died 23 Apr 1915 in Weakley County, Tennessee, connects William and Tabitha to Rutherford County [copy of death record provided by Kareen Chamberlain]
     
  2. William Elder appears in Weakley County in the 1840 Census and in Weakley County Tax Books from 1842-1845 (1 Poll in Civil District 12) [e.g. www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tnweakle/1845taxlist_12.htm]. He does not appear in CD 12 from 1846-1849; he appears in Civil District 3 of Carroll County in the 1850 Census: perhaps he moved to Carroll County around 1845. The Elders appear to have lived in the area where Carroll, Henry and Weakley Counties come together.

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Lucy Elder

Lucy Elder was born by 1810 in Virginia. Nothing is known about her life.

The marriage of a Lucretia Elder in Lexington Kentucky was announced in Nashville in 1828: "Oldham, Mr. Wm. married at Lexington, Ky. to Miss Lucretia E. Elder. National Banner & Nashville Whig (Fri., June 20, 1828)" [Lucas, Marriages from Early Tennessee Newspapers, 1794-1851, page 358, 1978]. However, this doesn't appear to be the Lucy Elder born in Virginia:

The 1850 Census lists William Oldham as a cotton manufacturer. Perhaps his marriage was announced in Nashville because he did business there.

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Frances Elder

Frances Elder was born by 1810 (uncertain) and died 1845-1850. She does not appear by name in any Census record [records].

Birth

Frances Elder seems to have been born in Charlotte County, Virginia, by 1810 (1810 Census indicates all 6 girls were born by then, but 1840 Census has her age as 20-30).

Marriage

David Baxter married twice in Rutherford County, Tennessee:

(1) 28 Nov 1822 to Cynthia H. Dickson [Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002]. Deaths: Wife of D. Baxter, Nat. Banner & Nash Whig, 5/20/1831 [Daniel, Cemeteries and Graveyards of Rutherford County, Tennessee, 2005, page 284].

(2) "MARRIED - In Rutherford County, on Thursday evening last, Mr. David Baxter to Miss Frances Elder" National Banner and Nashville Daily Advertiser (Sat April 14, 1832) [reported in Lucas, Marriages from Early Tennessee Newspapers, 1794-1851, 1978; copy provided by Kareen Chamberlain].

Husband

David Baxter was born in North Carolina about 1798 (age 52 in 1850 Census); he died in 1857 [Goodspeed biography of his son John - see below]. I haven't identified David Baxter's parents. One possibility is David Baxter and Mary Martin, who were married 29 Jun 1791 in Lincoln County, North Carolina [North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2004, Ancestry.com]. A David Baxter appears in the 1810 Census of Rutherford County, Tennessee, with 3 boys under 10 [http://www.censusdiggins.com/tennessee_census024.html].

Children

David and Cynthia Baxter had the following three children:

David and Frances Baxter had the following six children:

Residences

Frances Elder lived in Charlotte County, Virginia, and Rutherford County, Tennessee.

Death

Frances Elder Baxter seems to have died between 1845 and 1850: she did not appear in the 1850 Census; her youngest child Levinia's age was listed there as 5.

Other points of interest

  1. "John D. Baxter, register of Lauderdale County, is the son of David and Cynthia (Dixon) Baxter. The father was a native of North Carolina, and, when a young man, came to Middle Tennessee, where he married Miss Dixon and by her had two sons and a daughter; they settled in Middle Tennessee, where the mother died in 1831, a devout member of the Presbyterian Church. The following year he married Frances Elder, by whom he had six children; he was not a member of any church; she belongs to the Methodist Episcopal Church South; he was a farmer, a quiet, upright man, in politics as Democrat; he died in 1857, about sixty-seven years old. John D. Baxter, our subject, inherits Irish blood through his father; he was born September 14, 1823, in Rutherford County; received a common school education, and remained on the farm until he was twenty-one years old; then served a three years' apprenticeship learning the carpenter's trade, which he followed for seventeen years. In 1848, Mr. Baxter married Ann A. Lackey, who was born May 26, 1829, in Rutherford County; two of the six children born to them are living now. In 1861 they moved to Lauderdale County, which has since been their home, the entire family belongs to the Presbyterian Church. In 1865 Mr. Baxter was appointed by Gov. Brownlow to fill the office of register of Lauderdale County, and in 1866 he was elected by the people to fill the office, and has been so popular and efficient as an officer that he has been re-elected every four years since then and is still holding it for the sixth term. For twelve years he was postmaster at Ripley, Tenn. Politically he is a Democrat. In 1871, Mrs. Baxter died, and he has never remarried. He has been a resident of Lauderdale County for twenty-five years, and is a worthy citizen. [Goodspeed's Biographies of Lauderdale County, Tennessee, 1887; http://www.tngennet.org/lauderdale/gsbios.htm]
     
  2. David Baxter is listed next to Richard V. Teer (who married Nancy Elder) in the 1840 Census of Rutherford County, Tennessee. Note that two children of David and Frances Baxter were named Richard T. and Nancy E.; another was named Sarah E. (1850 Census). David Baxter is listed on the same page as James Elder in the 1830 Census.
     
  3. "It is ordered by the Court that James Jetton overseer of a road be allowed the following hands to work under him as such -- John Henry, John Lawrence, David Baxter, Obadiah Mason, Samuel Flemmings hands, David Moore, David Clark & Thomas Sherwoods hands" [WPA, Records of Rutherford County, Tennessee, Minutes - Volume F, 1812-1813, page 89, 1936 (DAR)]. Obadiah Mason probably was an older cousin of Frances Elder.

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Nancy Elder

Nancy Elder was born about 1810 (uncertain) and died after 1850. She appears in the 1850 Census [record].

Birth

Nancy Elder was born by 1810 (her age is given as 40 in the 1850 Census).

Marriage

Nancy Elder and Richard V. Teer married 19 Feb 1838 in Rutherford County, Tennessee [Ref 1] [record]

Husband

Richard V. Teer died between 7 Nov 1844, the date of a codicil to his will, and 5 Nov 1845, the date when the administrator of his estate was appointed [record]. His age was reported as 70-79 in the 1840 Census.

Richard V. Tear had previously married Susan Vaughan 6 Apr 1817 in Rutherford County [Ref 1] and Elisabeth Dunnagin 5 Aug 1833 in Rutherford County [Ref 1]. He may have had a still earlier marriage. He named two daughters in his will, Huldah Obanian and Naomy Lawrence (deceased).

Children

Nancy Elder Teer apparently had no children.

Residences

Nancy Elder lived in Charlotte County, Virginia, and in Rutherford County, Tennessee.

Death

Nancy Elder Tier died intestate in Rutherford County before 2 Aug 1859, when Willam Rucker was appointed administrator of her estate [Rutherford County, Tennessee, Record Book 20, page 130] [Record].

Other points of interest

  1. Richard V. Teer is listed on the same page as James Elder in the 1830 Census and next to David Baxter in the 1840 Census (David Baxter married Frances Elder).
     
  2. Mary E. Elder (age 8) and Susan J. Elder (age 9) are listed with Nancy Tier and Susan Elder in the 1850 Census. These probably are the daughters of her brother Claiborne Elder (by then deceased).
     
  3. Buyers at the Estate Sale of Richard Teer included J. Elder (probably Joshua - James was in Obion County) and D. Baxter [record].

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Susan Elder

Susan Elder was born about 1812 (uncertain) and died after 1850. She appears in the 1850 Census living with Nancy Tier (sic) [record].

Birth

Susan Elder was born about 1812 (her age is given as 38 in the 1850 Census, but all the girls were born by 1810 according to the 1820 Census).

Marriage

Susan Elder apparently did not marry.

Husband

None.

Children

None.

Residences

Susan Elder lived in Charlotte County, Virginia, and in Rutherford County, Tennessee.

Death

Susan Elder's date and place of death are unknown. She died after the 1850 Census.

Other points of interest

  1. A Susan Elder purchased 5 chairs at the Estate Sale of Claiborne Elder, deceased, in Obion County, Tennessee [Obion County, Tennessee, Record Book E, page 68-69]. She may have lived with Claiborne Elder at the time of the 1840 Census (there were two women age 20-30 listed in his household).
     
  2. Mary E. Elder (age 8) and Susan J. Elder (age 9) are listed with Nancy Tier and Susan Elder in the 1850 Census.

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Claiborne Elder

Claiborne Elder was born about 1810 and died by 1844. He appeared in the 1840 Census [record].

Birth

Claiborne Elder was born about 1810 (age 20-29 in 1840 Census). He probably was born in Charlotte County, Virginia.

Marriage

Claiborn Elder and Mary Ann Foster married 29 Apr 1840 in Obion County, Tennessee, surety James Elder [Ref 1, 2].

Wife

Mary Ann Foster died after 18 Sep 1844 (when her younger daughter was born) and before the 1850 Census (when her daughters were living with Nancy Tier and Susan Elder). I have found no information on her family.

Children

Claiborne and Mary Ann Elder had two children:

Residences

Claiborne Elder probably lived in Charlotte County, Virginia, and did live in Rutherford and Obion Counties in Tennessee.

Death

Claiborne Elder died by 1844, when James Elder was appointed administrator of his estate.

Other points of interest

  1. Claiborne may have been named after the Claiborne Elder from Dinwiddie County, Virginia, who served in the Revolutionary War.
     
  2. James Elder was appointed administrator of the estate of Claiborn Elder by Obion County Court in 1844, and returned an account of the Estate Sale [Obion County, Tennessee, get reference details]
     
  3. Court order connecting Claiborne and Joshua Elder: "Claibourn Elder Decd. It is ordered by the Court that the Clerk notify Joshua Elder, the Guardian for Susan Jane and Elizabeth Elder, minor heirs of Claibourn Elder Decd, to be and appear before the County Court of Rutherford County Tenn. at the Feby Term thereof and show cause if any why he shall not be removed as such Guardian. And also to appear before the Clerk of said Court previous to that time and render an account to said Clerk of the Estate of said wards." In margin: "Issd 10th Jany 1860 to Shff" [Rutherford County, Tennessee, Minute Book DD, page 231]

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References

  1. Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002, Ancestry.com
     
  2. Tennessee Marriages, 1796-1950, FamilySearch
     
  3. Obion County, Tennessee, Marriage Records, 1824-1877, DAR
     
  4. Illinois Marriages to 1850, Ancestry.com
     
  5. Illinois Marriages, 1851-1900, Ancestry.com
     
  6. Kareen Chamberlain, In Search of Grandfather and Grandmother Elder, 2002
     
  7. Tennessee, Death Records, 1914-1955, FamilySearch
     
  8. Tennessee Deaths and Burials, 1874-1955, FamilySearch
     
  9. Weakley County, Tennessee, Cemetery Listings, volume 2, DAR
     
  10. Detwiller and Daniel, Rutherford County, Tennessee, Deaths and Estate Settlements, volume 1, 1804-1849, 2008

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